Lengthy but Unnecessary Dissertations by Fearful Atheists

Often you find Atheists posting articles online about how misinformed believers in God were in Old Testament times and how misinformed New Testament Christians are. They point out things such as Christians or Old Testament believers in God, mistakenly believing that the world was flat. As a Christian believer in God I will even add to this argument by saying that believers from both time periods believed in many things that were not correct. However, the Holy Bible says in many scriptures that God did not always give explanations but His Word is rather “revelation knowledge”. Why did God allow his people to lack understanding in so many things? Could it be that He desired for man to seek answers; not only the extremely important spiritual ones but also those that he could learn increasingly through scientific and common sense methods?
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The Holy Scriptures are an account of God’s ongoing dealings with man’s sin-nature; a term that is of course ridiculed by Atheists, even in the face of a horrible increase of bad attitudes across the board in the world. You can add adulteries that lead to murders, theft of other’s properties that in many cases sends men to prison. You additionally have the even farther-reaching results of sin, to include war, child molestation, rape of young women – on up to the elderly. However, Atheists often result in saying the pointing-out of these things is a “stick man argument”; a phrase they use to ad nauseam.
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This pointing out of how ignorant mankind was/is, includes fields of science that it was literally impossible for man to understand in the earliest and earlier years of mankind’s domain/dispensation (yes Biblical terms Christians believe in). Can you imagine people 5,000 years ago saying to one another “Let’s build a very large telescope, so we can really know what’s going on in the universe.”? Daniel stated in his Old Testament book: “But you, Daniel, keep these words secret, and seal the book until the end times. Many will travel everywhere, and knowledge will grow.” (Daniel 12:4 GWT). Would this not reveal that God had a timing for scientific knowledge to grow increasingly with passing generations? Christians have a very difficult time seeing all things working in unison because a force of evolution is moving it forward. This implies reasoning and planning behind evolution, by those who don’t even realize they are saying this with every argument they attack belief in God with. You can do it in a calm voice and a convincing tone but this still does not make any of these arguments true against belief in God.
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What is the “fearful” aspect I added in my title of this article, toward Atheists? What it is meant to point out is that they have a gnawing, a deep down fear that tells them it is wrong to try converting others to Atheism (very much a religion) because they don’t want to be alone if they find that God really will be judging them. Here’s another spot where Atheists will use the “stick man argument” term and say; “This is the technique of Christianity, to scare and frighten people, including little precious children, into becoming Christians.” Let me just add this statement, to that counter-argument: How real is child rape and war that kills many 1,000s of innocent people in their homelands or how about bombs that can wipe out millions of people with the simple entry of codes and button pushing? “Well”, an Atheist might say, this is simply “unacceptable social behavior – a flaw in evolutionary progression”. Why then is it all tied-into what can logically be called “evil” (yes, a term evolutionists say is philosophical and unprovable in a scientific testing or lab setting).
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How can evil possibly be denied or how can good be possibly denied (e.g. supporting the poor, helping orphans, handicapped/disabled and widowed people)? As far as age of earth and universe findings go that Atheists believe prove ‘theories of evolution’ (stated in plural because evolution is not one theory but a variety of them and many are in conflict), many Christians believe God has used the earth for other purposes that may go back eons of ages. The belief goes back to Targums (early Old Testament concordances/paraphrases). Do Christians even now know a great deal past “Jesus Christ and Him crucified to redeem men from the sin-nature John 3:16)? No. I’ll end with a verse from the Holy Bible that sums up this point: “For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.” (1 Corinthians 13:12 – KJV).
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Satan Fell Due to Pride and not for Tempting Adam and Eve

There is no mention whatsoever of the angel Lucifer falling due to his tempting of Adam and Eve. There is reference to him being in “Eden the Garden of God” however. It also states that he “weakened the nations”. These are matter-of-fact statements that help to further identify who this individual is (Satan) and some are at varied points of ‘retrospection’ but are not applied to the reason for Lucifer/Satan’s fall. Some Holy Bible bashers will say that both Lucifer (Isaiah 14) and “the King of Tyrus” (Ezekiel 28), where simply men whom the imagined God was prophesying against through his prophets. However, he is mainly speaking to the evil spirit influencing these men. Jesus once said to his disciple Peter “Get the behind me Satan” – Mark 8:33, because Satan was obviously trying to divert Peter’s attention away from the intent of The Gospel of Christ. The chapter in both Isaiah and Ezekiel reference things to the two men they are addressing, that cannot apply to a man at all. Only much more powerful beings could be who these scriptures are addressing, such as an archangel.
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There were no nations for example, at the time of Adam. The Garden of Eden for Adam was in most likelihood a place made in the image of what already existed in Heaven, just as man was made in the image and likeness of God. The “mountain of God” and “stones of fire” that this angel was also associated-with were also things made in reference to what is found in Heaven and these are not mentioned as having existed in Adam’s Garden of Eden. There is in-fact no mention of Adam and the sin that separated him from God, as being the cause of Lucifer’s/Satan’s fall in these passages at all but it specifically cites his pride and resulting contempt/jealousy toward God as being the cause of it. Proverbs 16:18 says: “Pride goes before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.” The fall of Lucifer was an event that occurred before Adam. His tempting of Adam was as a fallen angel – transformed into an evil spirit.
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The book of Job refers to angels who watched as God created the earth and sang/shouted praises to him as he did-so. Job 38: 4-7 – “Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding. Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it? Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof; When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?” This means angels existed before the creation of the earth, which also means that the ones who fell by involvement in Lucifer’s rebellion, did-so before Adam’s temptation in the Garden of Eden (2 Peter 2:4, Jude 6, Luke 10:18, Revelation 12:3-4). The latter-listed scripture a Revelation refers to how many angels Satan brought down with him, being “1/3”. It would be very difficult to place a righteous angel as the tempter who used the subtle serpent and was not allowed to appear to Adam as an “angel of light”.
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The temptation was a choice between good and evil, the same at it was when Jesus was tempted by Satan in the wilderness for 40 days (Luke Chapter 4). It should also be noted that Isaiah 14 makes the following observation in regard to the “hell” Lucifer was brought down to after first being “cast down to the ground”, saying “Hell from beneath” (verse 9). This, in addition to many other Bible references confirm hell to be in the “heart of the earth” (Matthew 12:40, Acts 2:27). “Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth?” Ephesians 4:9- Speaking of Christ when he descended into a compartment of earth to “…preach unto the sprits in prison” (1 Peter 3: 18-19). Satan is indeed a fallen angel (along with other fallen angels/spirits he rules over – Ephesians 6), he was for a fact, cast down to hell but released for a season to temp Adam within his earth-domain, just as he will be released again from hell in the future to temp natural people who will repopulate the earth during Christ’s millennial reign (Revelation 20:7-8).
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Afterward, he is cast into the “lake of fire” along with hell itself (Revelation 20:10-15) and God will destroy and afterward re-create the earth and he will then place the New Jerusalem on it, where he and his people (the redeemed in-Christ) will live together in glorious joy forever (eternity without end) and Satan will no longer exist in the realm of mankind’s new domain with God, not even as a memory. Revelation 21:1-4 – “And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. And I John saw the holy city, New Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God. And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.”

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World Evil and Mythological Gods Reasons to Doubt the Holy Bible?

This same question per this article’s title has been asked for 1,000s of years. The answer is actually just the opposite of what the title asks. These things should actually cause people to recognize that the spiritual does exist and is very real. However, people continue to say their atheism is based on contrary evidence to a true loving God who would not allow suffering we see prominent in this present world and that this is somehow a new reason to claim atheism. Zoom in on the word “allow” regarding God. In the biblical record it was not God but man who first allowed evil into the present world. While the biblical record somewhat simplifies the account of man choosing evil over God’s purpose for him, it is obviously a reality. Murder, family-destroying adultery, child molestation and war which kills huge numbers of people, etc…, are all evidence that man and woman chose evil for the world God created and gave them to rule over (Genesis 1:26).
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Remember also the fact that Jesus Christ is called in the scriptures “the last Adam, who became a quickening Spirit” (I Corinthians 15:45). Jesus too was tempted by Satan for 40 days and nights in the wilderness but he defeated Satan’s attempts to make him fall as the first Adam did (Luke 4:1-13). Plus he was “God manifest in the flesh” (1 Timothy 3:16) but he came to earth to live as a righteous man, filled and anointed by The Holy Spirit before dying on the cross. He poured out his blood for us and was resurrected from the dead after 3 days in the tomb. Afterward, being highly glorified by God The Father as he completed the most difficult mission in all of history-past and the future to come. This provides redemption for the sin death penalty (physical and spiritual death) to others who would accept “salvation”, also called being “born again” and becoming “a new creation in Christ Jesus”.
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(Luke 4:18: – Read by Jesus in the temple, him adding “today is this scripture fulfilled”.) “The Spirit of the Lord is upon Me, Because He has anointed Me To preach the gospel to the poor; He has sent Me to heal the brokenhearted, To proclaim liberty to the captives And recovery of sight to the blind, To set at liberty those who are oppressed…” (Isaiah 52:14) “Just as there were many who were appalled at him — his appearance was so disfigured beyond that of any human being and his form marred beyond human likeness–“ Usually in debate form, atheists ask follow-up questions such as “why does evil exist at all”? Basically the same answer applies – God is never the one who breaks covenant. Angels sinned in the distant past and they were cast to hell – incarcerated. God “allowed” Satan who was over the original angelic revolt, in which he was called “Lucifer” at that time and who wanted to become equal with God (most of God’s angels remained holy), to be “loosed for a little season” to tempt Adam. How can choice of love and choice of evil otherwise be tested – does God want fake devotion (hypocrisy)? He will be loosed again temporarily following Christ’s future millennial (1,000 year) reign, to tempt one final time, any remaining hold-outs to Gods will among mankind, afterward he is “cast into the lake of fire” (not the same place as hell, which will also be cast there).
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After Christ’s Millennial Reign – Those tempted will not be Gods resurrected people.- – – “And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.” – Revelation 20:3. The “gods” people refer-to, in attempt to place God in the same category, may have actually been the “giants in the land” spoken of in Genesis 6, who were possessed by demon spirits or at times, even by Satan himself (likely perpetrating false miraculous signs – 2 Corinthians 11:14). The passage may imply the union between human women and fallen angels having indeed taken place, creating a race of angel-men (for lack of a better term). Regardless, their strengths were incredible as in the story of “the champion of the Philistines – Goliath” who was killed by the boy who would later become King David. He also had four giant brothers as well, all of them having 12 fingers and 12 toes each. The spear of Goliath was his main weapon of choice and was 26 ft. long, with the iron point of the spear weighing 15 to 20 pounds (described in the Old Testament as equal to six hundred shekels)!
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Can any human we know of today proficiently handle a spear of this size and weight? In the original Hebrew, Goliath was stated to be 9ft, 3inches tall. In modern times Robert Waldow was 8 Foot 11inches tall (he died in 1940) and there is a living giant today named Sultan Kösen of Turkey, who stands 8 ft. 3 inches tall. These modern men simply suffered endocrine gland or genetic mutations, which may also have been the case with Old Testament giants. God destroyed the giant Goliath via a willing, young, small boy named David. They had no armor small enough to fit him, so he used a slingshot but mostly he used The Name of “The Lord of Hosts” (1 Samuel 17:48) as he RAN toward Goliath to kill him. Israelites were being murdered by the Philistines over Jewish Promised Land. They hoped to eradicate God’s chosen remnant – The Jews/Israelites. There could have just as easily also been a giant at some point who wielded a sledgehammer to destroy enemies and their camps (e.g. Thor) because giants recurred at several different points as stated in the scriptures (Genesis 6:4).
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There also seems to be biblical record (read it before you think I’m taking a wild stab), in Genesis 6 of God stating that he was giving mankind a limited amount of years to change as he “strived with them”. He would then destroy man from off the face of the earth, sparing only Noah and his family (8 people). Was this flood possibly a way to eradicate mankind who was polluted by interbreeding with a different order of created beings (the Nephilim, meaning “fallen ones”), who were not meant to crossbreed? This writer is not decided on this question but I’m not ready to dismiss it either. Regardless, there were giants on earth and even the Bible states that they became “mighty men of old, men of renowned” – possibly meaning a mythological enhancement in some cases (Genesis 6:4). Noah was stated to be “pure in all his generations” and therefore spared death in the flood, via the Ark God had him and his three sons build for specific preservations (he and his family; eight including their wives, plus the animals).
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Regardless, there were giants at different points and they at the least, provided great material for the development of myths among those who refused to worship the only true God who created them and to rather worship gods of myth and demonic influence. Why? Because, as it says in the first chapter of John’s Gospel “they love darkness rather than light” (choosing sin over righteousness – John 3:19). Their reasons for choice of atheism will of course never outwardly include the admittance that they are inwardly wanting to hold onto “the pleasure of sin” (Romans 6:21, Hebrews 11:25). “And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.”
(John 3:19) “That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.” (Romans 10:9)
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